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Post by Sparta on Sept 28, 2004 19:26:43 GMT -5
Germany Help!!! Can't stand this, we need you to clear it up.
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 28, 2004 19:27:34 GMT -5
OOC: Yes I do. France is largely a shitpool that lost its best industrial regions to Germany in 1871 while I spent $100 mil on expanding industrial areas in Moscow and Petrograd (thats $10 billion in todays money. Should do something). Oh and unlike RL Russia my populace is not revolting due to massive wars, The Bosporus straight is open to me which means I can get supplies I need, Germany and I are still technically neutral (Germany and Russia were industrial partners before ww1 to a degree). OOC: You know.. How long does it take to industrialize? Around a few years, atleast, to get the amount of factories as the Soviet Union had. (which is what I believe you are going for) You're industrialization wouldn't be done in a RL day, a RL week, or even a RL month. It would probably be done in RL, 4 weeks. Maybe 5. Now, as I said, Sparta, Italy, etc, will ignore your posts that relate to everything except the 360,000 infantry that you have somewhere in Bulgaria. Accidently clicked modify instead of quote, than posted my message, that's why it says 'Modified by Netherlands'.
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 28, 2004 19:28:52 GMT -5
OOC: I dont really care if I take advantage of history. Taking small caliber naval guns and putting them on land for anti-tank use like I did is also taking advantage of history. But then again the Germans used 77mm guns to kill Brit tanks at Cambrai (first time ever used) and knocked out several dozen in a few days. OOC: Another reason why you should be banned. You are exploiting this RP for your own purposes.
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Post by Russia on Sept 28, 2004 19:29:05 GMT -5
OOC: I did the industrialization 3 weeks ago I know I dont have the USSR capacity. Thats why I have 750 tanks and not 10,000 per year as USSR did!
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 28, 2004 19:31:25 GMT -5
OOC: I did the industrialization 3 weeks ago I know I dont have the USSR capacity. Thats why I have 750 tanks and not 10,000 per year as USSR did! OOC: And? The industrialization you are trying to make would take RL months. Not weeks.
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Post by Russia on Sept 28, 2004 19:33:23 GMT -5
OOC: You know.. How long does it take to industrialize? Around a few years, atleast, to get the amount of factories as the Soviet Union had. (which is what I believe you are going for) You're industrialization wouldn't be done in a RL day, a RL week, or even a RL month. It would probably be done in RL, 4 weeks. Maybe 5. Now, as I said, Sparta, Italy, etc, will ignore your posts that relate to everything except the 360,000 infantry that you have somewhere in Bulgaria. Accidently clicked modify instead of quote, than posted my message, that's why it says 'Modified by Netherlands'. And.... it was posted 3 weeks ago. Plenty of time to give me 1/2 the industrial capacity of France
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 28, 2004 19:34:58 GMT -5
And.... it was posted 3 weeks ago. Plenty of time to give me 1/2 the industrial capacity of France OOC: Not at all. Russia's industry was piss poor in 1914. It was a joke. They could barely supply their own army with men.
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Post by Russia on Sept 28, 2004 19:37:08 GMT -5
OOC: Not at all. Russia's industry was piss poor in 1914. It was a joke. They could barely supply their own army with men. OOC: Russia was self sufficient in all forms of weaponry from subs to battleships to machine-guns. The problem was Ottoman and germany cut off other supplies. Just for you- russian industry in 1914 ARMS AND MUNITIONS Arsenals [arsenaly]: St.-Petersburg (Simbirskaya), Bryansk, Kiev, Warsaw, Tiflis, Khabarovsk. St.-Petersburg Arms Factory [Peterburgsk Orudiinyi Zavod] St. Petersburg, Liteinyi Okhtensk Powder Works [Okhtenskii Porokhovoi Zavod] St. Petersburg, behind B. Okhtoi, Porokhov. shosse Michael Shostensk Powder Works [Mikhailovsk Shostenskii Porokhovoi Zavod] Shostka, Chernigov Province Kazan Powder Works [Kazanskii Porokhovoi Zavod] Kazan Okhtensk Explosives Factory [Okhtenskii Zavod Vzryvchatykh Veshchestv] B. Okhta, near Rzhevka Sergei Samara Explosives Factory [Sergievskii Smarskii Zavod Vzryvchatykh Veshchestv] Samara EMPEROR PETER THE GREAT'S Tula Arms Factory [Tul'skii IMPERATORA PETRA VELIKAGO Oruzheinyi Zavod] Tula Izhevsk Arms Factory [Izhevskii Oruzheinyi Zavod] Izhevskoe, Vyatka Province Sestroretsk Arms Factory [Sestroretskii Oruzheinyi Zavod] Sestroretsk, St.-Petersburg Province St.-Petersburg Cartridge Factory [S.-Peterburgskii Patronnyi Zavod] Administration, Tikhvinskaya ulitsa 136 Lugansk Cartridge Factory [Luganskii Patronnyi Zavod] Lugansk, Yekaterinoslav Province St.-Petersburg Gun Tube Factory [Peterburgskii Trubochnyi Zavod] St. Petersburg, Ostrov Golodai Samara Gun Tube Factory [Samarskii Trubochnyi Zavod] Samara Sergei Samara Explosives Factory [Sergievskii Samarskii Zavod Vzryvchatykh Veshchestv] Samara
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 28, 2004 19:41:12 GMT -5
OOC: A lot of Russia's infantry were equipped with rifles bought from Britain. They had the ability to equip some of their soldiers, but most were from Britain. That long list of names means shit. That list shows around 150 factories. That's piss poor.
Just looked over the names of those factories, please. Do you seriously call those actual factories? 136 cartridge factories? Oh well geez, that'll come in handy when making tanks and aeroplanes!
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Post by Russia on Sept 28, 2004 19:42:51 GMT -5
OOC: Each could build about 15,000 guns per year do the math. 2,250,000 guns per year. Again, the problem is Ottoman and Germany cut off Russia from the west.
ALso RL Russia couldnt equip all its troops because it mobilized 12 million. I dont really believe in cannon fodder..
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Post by Germany on Sept 28, 2004 19:45:53 GMT -5
ITALIAN BORDER, SWITZERLAND
The hundreds of trucks hulling their loads let off an alarming noise. Their thunder rolled down the roads headed for the Italian border.
It was late at night, and the lead of the pack stopped right at the check point. The German Soldier climbed out of the truck, and walked over to the Italian night shift border patrol.
"Hello Gentlemen." He said "The German Army has a treat for your Majesty." Said the German soldier
The Italians looked at the soldier for a second. Then one of them pulled out a peice of paper from his pocket. He read it quickly.
"You are allowed to pass, we have been given orders from high command to let...one thousand..I repeat one thousand long and medium range Artillery into Italy. As well as various other equipment, that is top secret." He said, looking at the German Soldier slightly shocked. He would have thought the Germans would do nothing and let Italy just get ran over. In a way, they were, but in another, they were aiding their ally..secretly.
"Well, you boys have a nice night." Said the German Soldier walking back to his truck. The equipment is headed for Milan, Italy; where the Italian Army is to pick it up. After that, the transport vehicles, ect. head back for Germany. All movements have been done with total secrecy, even the other German Army commanders do not know about it.
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[Telegram] [To: Italian Emperor] [From: Kaiser Wilhelm II]
"To the Italian Emperor,
I, Kaiser Wilhelm II, am in an odd situation. We wish peace with the Russians and the Moscow Pact, but at the same time, we wish not to betray our ally. Therefor, secretly, I have sent 700 peices of long ranged German artillery, 300 Medium ranged German Artillery, 200 Trench Mortors, and 20,000 Mauser Gewehr rifles. I hope this equipment may better your advantage against the invaders. For the Mauser Gewehr is the most successful bolt-action rifle designed and possibly the best in the world. Our Artillery is also known for it's range. We hope that our alliance will be well kept, and Italy will live to see another day."
SIGNED, Kaiser Wilhelm II
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 28, 2004 19:46:08 GMT -5
OOC: 2 Million guns is nothing considering that a quarter of that was used in home defense and their guns broke quite a lot. So, the ability to equip their men was actually about half of that.
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Post by Italy on Sept 28, 2004 19:50:24 GMT -5
The German Equipment is being shipped to Athens, thats why he posted it here.
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Post by Russia on Sept 28, 2004 19:50:50 GMT -5
OOC: 2 Million guns is nothing considering that a quarter of that was used in home defense and their guns broke quite a lot. So, the ability to equip their men was actually about half of that. OOC: I dont have anywhere near 12 million men to equip... currently in conflict zones I have a whopping 1.5 mil troops. The Nagant family of weapons was actually very reliable and accurate, but hard and slow to reload and a bit archaic.
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Post by Sparta on Sept 28, 2004 19:56:37 GMT -5
Sparta is going to start the training of 20,000 troops this will take 6 weeks before they can be deployed. Their will be 10,000 calvary and 10,000 Infentry.
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