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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 16:50:59 GMT -5
Yup they'd reach the beach heads just in time for you italy because, your troops would have to move farther then mine would. Groups this large would be fairly oviouse, how are you moving all those troops?
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Post by Italy on Sept 9, 2004 16:52:41 GMT -5
That made no sence. Taking this argument to the complaints board.
Now, respond to my ships counter-fire and my troops landing in this board.
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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 17:05:53 GMT -5
Let's put this in proper English
Italy is over 75 miles from greece by boat. 1.Dreadnaughts move at the speed of less then 20 knots. By the time they would get to greece I could scramble my ships for defense or interception. Especally in athens because you'd have to move all the way to my east coast or drop on one side then march your troops. 2. How are you moving your troops? In seperate transport ships or your big ships. I assume they would be on the big ships because transport ships were not specified! Troops get sea sick very often this makes them more exasted then they already are. Transport ships also have very little extra room for more fuel. So they cannot make trips from Italy to Greece none stop. They would also take more time because they are slow and clumsy. If thier is no transport ships, combat ships can't get in to land. Their to big, your troops would have to swim. (That would be funny)
Rping: I am going to pour 15 barrels of Lamp oil on my beach in a nice strip. With a line going up to my trenches. When your ships get close I'm going to use my 30 planes to attack the transport ships with machine guns.
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Post by Italy on Sept 9, 2004 17:15:25 GMT -5
OOC: I told you to contynue the argument at the other post! Transport. And besides, theres something you arent understanding, Ive been on the beach, youve been at the port. I already have let you attack me, out of nowhere, because Im nice, but theres no way in hell you could suprise me. Also, theres no way men can just walk in front of people unloading onto the beach, so im going to ignore that. Im already landing, so my men are being chopped to death by Mach Guns and Planes. I refuse to post anything about ships untill you post YOUR casulties. Now, please specify. Where are my men being attacked by planes and machine guns? Are the other beaches free? Are my men landing on the islands unopposed by land?
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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 17:15:43 GMT -5
Okay my artillary will shoot at your transport ships with shells full of metal shrapenal (like a shotgun.) My machineguns and riflemen will shoot at the beech from thier entrenchment from the dunes. Light the Kerosine when Italian troops step into it and snipe of enamies. Casualties are light at first because not many Italians will be on the beach. The Planes will sweep the transports as they are coming in. only about 100 Greeks are dead. Reserves are being called up ASAP. My Ships start to scramble to thier positions. This happens on the main land. The Islands ae abandoned.
I still need to know about athens because if your moving around the "horn of Greece" then I still have time to react before you land (Athens is on the other coast then all the other.)
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 9, 2004 17:24:06 GMT -5
OOC:
"Okay my artillary will shoot at your transport ships with shells full of metal shrapenal (like a shotgun.)"
Actually, that wouldn't work. Unless the artillery was about 5 meters away. Think about it, the artillery is.. what? 500 meters away? With that much of a spray, the shrapnel fly everywhere, hitting your own men and probably not even hitting the Italian soldiers.
Just my two cents.
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Post by Italy on Sept 9, 2004 17:25:12 GMT -5
OOC: Check the map first page- It has Patri and Ioaninna on it.... I refuse to post anymore till I get ship casulties, and I will not add in casulties from these people that come in all of a sudden right in front of my nose and lay gas.
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Post by Japan on Sept 9, 2004 17:25:37 GMT -5
ooc:
use normal HE shells....
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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 17:31:55 GMT -5
Nitherlands. The Shells themselves. when they are fired, they go through the air then hit the ground and explode. Then the metal shoots out (AMerican Civil War is where this stratagy started)
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Post by Bulgaria on Sept 9, 2004 17:32:53 GMT -5
Greece you suck. My army would of smashed your army within hours. I outnumber you by a huge ammount and i have better weapons supplied from russia.
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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 17:32:58 GMT -5
Okay the fuel isn't thier and the ships had to scramble. Italy, Do you land in the city or the area. If you land and march toward Athens then you come from that side. If you land in Athens itself then you have to go all the way around greece to get thier (The city itself is marked)
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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 17:37:31 GMT -5
Bulgeria you never RPed it out. You need to RP it out NOT say I send these troops in NOW YOU DEAD! Tell me your manevers, and rember 200 spartans held of 20,000 turks in ancient times so they might not nessecarly would be slaughtered. RP IT OUT
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Post by Netherlands on Sept 9, 2004 17:38:05 GMT -5
Nitherlands. The Shells themselves. when they are fired, they go through the air then hit the ground and explode. Then the metal shoots out (AMerican Civil War is where this stratagy started) OOC: Yes, I'm aware of this tactic. But you are firing at transport ships, that's very different. The effectiveness of them would decrease by atleast 80% considering that if they hit the water, nothing happens, they just sink with the shrapnel still in them. In this time and period, aiming artillery and hitting an object was quite hard. Edit: Also, I believe Italy wants you to post the casualties of your ships, not what they do after the battle. (run, etc) Your ships would have taken casualties considering that his ships were hit.
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Post by Italy on Sept 9, 2004 17:39:21 GMT -5
OOC: Ok, the shiops scramble, STILL POST THE SHOTS! you cant come in, fire a shot, and run. You have to take a shot as well.
Navies chear as the Greek Navies all rout!
The islands are taken within hours, and the troops there begin Phase Two....
(Assuming that Ionnia and Patra had the same defences...) At Patra, the shear numbers allow more Greeks to be shot down then Italians fall... the plan goes extreamly organized, and the Italians begin to make a beachhead with minimal casulties, preparing to assault the Fortifications.
Casutlies: 130
At Ionnia, the plan goes less well. The Attack is somewhat disorganized, and less of number. Same Plan. Casulties: 320
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Post by Greece on Sept 9, 2004 17:40:02 GMT -5
Netherlands they are on shoar. I'm not worring about the ships. Its the troops i need to worry about.
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